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01 January 2010 @ 09:41 pm
Doctor Who  

Although I'm fairly certain everyone already knows this was David's swansong, so that's not exactly a spoiler, there may be those who don't know and I don't want angry Whovians on my back!

*bawls like a baby*

I don't want you to go either *sniffle*

That said, 11 felt like a mix of 5 and 2 IMHO (and yes, it was only a few seconds so it's very hard to judge and he may be completely different in the spring) and having seen him in action I'm starting to warm to him. Can't wait to see what Moffat has in store for him. Although, Daleks? Again? Really? (But I am looking forward to the return of the Weeping Angels *shiver*)

As for this ep, it was soooo much better than the first one that I forgive RTD, he managed to pull it out of the bag. Loved all the scenes between Wilf and 10, but then Rusty has always done the emotion well. It got a little confusing for me, having not followed the BF audio series. Rassilon? Huh? He was rotting in a tomb last I knew (in The Five Doctors) and who was the woman? Was it Romana? (methinks yes) Not answering that wasn't clever, it was just bloody annoying!

I thought the end got a little mawkish, and while I thought setting up Jack with Alonso was a sweet gesture, it didn't feel right somehow. Maybe I was just projecting my desire for Ten and Jack to kiss (mainly because any flirting between Jack and 11 would be wrong), or maybe I wanted him to just go over to him and comfort him. After all, if anyone understands what he's gone through it's the Doctor.

So yeah, it was flawed but it was a much better sendoff than I feared it might be. Bye bye 10. *toddles off to find the BF audiobooks so I can find out what I've missed*

Oh, and Being Human is back on BBC3 in nine days *woops*

Edited to add: WTF was that about with Mickey/Martha?! What happened to Tom? And freelance? Pur-leeese. *tuts*
Kaysilvercobwebs on January 1st, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
Just to elaborate on my uber-short review and to comment on yours. OK, so it's also a bit of a rant, pardon me:
I loved all the bits with 10 and Wilf. Love Wilf. Loved the twist of 'He will knock four times', painful as it was, but really, it should've ended there. Far far too long, too drawn-out sentimental ending, and I actually came away feeling rather numb.
To me the whole ep felt rather disjointed and forced, as if Rusty was trying to piece together too many things, some sucessfully (all of the sound of drums related stuff), and some badly (time lock?!, oh lets randomly slip in George, er Alonso). I think he was trying to have his cake and eat it - Donna there, but just as background - what a waste, and Mickey/Martha?! WTF indeed.
...and I'm beginning to sound like a party pooper, I know. Sorry. I actually liked part 1, and part 2 had plenty of good bits, it just didn't quite work for me. I thought I was going to be more upset than I was after seeing Children of Earth, but it just didn't have that kind of emotional impact. Maybe it wasn't suposed to.
Still reserving judgement on 11, but superficially i'm not encouraged by the by-numbers montage teaser trailer - Daleks? Tick. Kissing Companion? Tick... Well, Matt S was cast for a reason, so I've just got to wait and see. :)

And egads, sorry for venting over your pretty shiny journal, hon!
But, I don't want to be a pie,: doc cockidontlikegravy on January 1st, 2010 10:30 pm (UTC)
That's okay, you gave me an excuse to test drive my shiny new icon! :)

Fair points all. I think I want 10 to have a good ending, so I'm trying to not look too hard at the flaws lest I start getting back to the anger I felt on Xmas Day.

And don't even get me started on that new logo.... Pfft.

What's the betting the amount of Ten/George and Jack/George fic will have triple by the weekend? *grin* It was also pretty funny that both George and Nina were in that ep! XD

ETA: Oh, and Geronimo? Does the Doctor really need a catchphrase? I mean, yeah Allons-y was funny, but it was uniquely Ten, like the jelly babies were Four. Geronimo is just... naff.

Edited at 2010-01-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
beer_good_foamy on January 1st, 2010 10:32 pm (UTC)
The ending was overly sentimental, yeah, but how perfect was it that he got to look up Joan's grand-daughter? OK, so logically he's a timetraveller and could have looked up Joan herself, but... still. I love that she's up there with the rest.
But, I don't want to be a pie,: 10 & 5idontlikegravy on January 1st, 2010 10:35 pm (UTC)
Oh absolutely! Don't get me wrong, it wasn't the concept that I found overly sentimental, it was just a little drawn-out, perhaps unnecessarily so.

I thought that too, but I guess he was scared that she wouldn't be happy, or seeing him again would be too painful for her? *shrugs*
The other Weird Alaeron_lanart on January 1st, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
while I thought setting up Jack with Alonso was a sweet gesture, it didn't feel right somehow I kind of had that. Does it make me a bad person that I was just glad that my TW/HL AU fanon/canon wasn't jossed completely? *g*

I think I'm going to like Eleven, but we shall see come spring.

I think everyone has loved Wilf and specifically the Doctor's scenes with him.
But, I don't want to be a pie,: doc cockidontlikegravy on January 1st, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Cribbins FTW! (ooh, that needs to be an icon)

Does it make me a bad person that I was just glad that my TW/HL AU fanon/canon wasn't jossed completely?

Yes. A very bad person *grin*
Rhi: bounty huntervipersweb on January 4th, 2010 04:39 am (UTC)
*g* I've heard some think that the Woman was Susan, but I don't see how it could have been her, since the first Doctor left Susan on Earth in the future.

I'm quasi optimistic about 11, mostly because RTD is gone. I didn't like the implication that while the Doctor can save/give his companions happiness, the best he can do for Jack is get him laid. I find that insulting. Also am with you on the Martha/Mickey thing.

Also yeah, confused about Rassilon. I'm going to toke that up to RTD wanting to pretend like he knows something about Classic Who and hadn't just ruined the Time Lords by making them into comic book villains.
But, I don't want to be a pie,: wilfidontlikegravy on January 6th, 2010 01:27 pm (UTC)
*snorfle* Yeah, Rusty does love reminding everyone of his fanboy credentials, doesn't he?

I think Moffat can do good things with 11, if he gets a chance. After all he did write most of 10's best eps. IMHO anyway. :)